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Post by HS7 Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:09 am

Hm, they be more informed, they become more curious about so they begin to experiment. Few years later, the world is over-run by crazy hormonal teens that seem to be reproducing every ten seconds.
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Post by Hazel Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:11 am

Oh....well I was thinking it's sad more because it's violent, but ok that works too.
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Post by Holleh Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:18 am

Yeah, there is also the violence, but that's the whole reason why video games have warnings on them. The parents are responsible for what kind of content their children are exposed to.
But, also... In real life, they will be exposed to violence and sex at some point, so in a way, I think of it as preparation for the real world.
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Post by bibbit Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:19 am

Hormonal teens are reproducing every ten seconds because they're taught that it's okay and even cool. They do not do it just because they know how. You don't seem to be complaining about adults reproducing every ten seconds. Teens are presented with the information and left to decide for themselves how to use it. In today's culture, it is presented to them in a positive light, rather than purely an informative one.

You can't blame the school systems for teaching these things. They need to know it at some point. It's like saying we shouldn't teach people how to use knives because they can be used to kill people. The only thing we can do is inform people that sex and violence have consequences, and it's up to them to make a decision.
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Post by Hazel Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:01 am

Of course people have to know it exists.....otherwise it would be like living in a bubble XD But violence at a young age causes aggression in children. There is no need for a 7 year old to be "prepared for the real world." Not in that sense. As for sex.....the more educating the better in my point of view....if kids don't know there are consequences then why wouldn't they do it
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Post by bibbit Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:10 am

False. I play violent games all the time and have never killed more than three people.
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Post by Hazel Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:19 am

You're not a child XD
Perhaps you're just weird? Razz
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Post by xStarr_x3 Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:29 am

OKAY IS IT JUST ME ORRRR--
Is "How To Train Your Dragon" an amazing movie or what?
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Post by Hazel Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:37 am

I haven't seen it, but I did hear it was awesome XD
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Post by bibbit Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:08 am

Me, weird? .......................................................noooo.......

Also yes, I loved that movie. high fiiiiive _o/\o_
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Post by HS7 Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:49 am

It really is pointless to even try to make a statement, isn't it? Or an arguement?

Hormonal crazy teenagers learning about sex and violence = mass chaos ((Meaning the world will literally be burning. Think about hell for a moment.)) and a butt load of little kids rampaging the area. Not to mention every single person pretty much has an STD due to all the reproducing going on. What about the dead bodies littering the floor? They may think it's all fun and amazing because they don't know, but the problem is, once they do realize, they still do it because it's become such a habit and it's hard for them to stop.

Little kids having sex is pretty freaky, don't you think? If they get pregnant, do you think they could handle all the hormones that are raging through their body at the time? Or even the taunting comments of their peers? Suicide is highly likely if these kids actually do become pregant because of their ignorance in the situation.

And violence? Imagine a six year old marching down the street with his dad's gun shooting at innocent bystanders thinking they're the bad guys because that's the cover they took in the game?

And I've never seen that movie before. :/
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Post by bibbit Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:58 pm

It's called a debate, silly. Of course you're going to have counterpoints presented to you. :P

Hormonal crazy teenagers learning about sex and violence = ...well would you look at that, most teenagers have already learned about it! Last I checked, I was not on fire. Let me check again.

...Nope, still not combusting.

The scenario you've presented is highly exaggerated. People who play violent games tend to realize that they're playing a freaking video game. I've played shooters since I was eight, and people know me as the calmest person that they know. Sure, if they're bred on violence starting at age four or something, kids might find it okay to rampage through city streets. But that's not what happens. You seem to underestimate the judgment of the average kid and of the average parent.

Little kids having sex is a rarity, not an epidemic. Teens getting pregnant, however, is a tragedy in most cases, and I agree with you there.

Oh, and next time you see a six year old shooting at people, give me a call, kay?

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Post by Holleh Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:04 pm

It's not the information itself that makes someone want to have sex; it's how they want to use that information. Yes, a lot of teens think it's cool to have sex. I heard girls in my choir class talking about how they recently lost their virginity -- they were bragging about it. Some people, though few, actually do have values and morals and choose not to use the information.

I think to be more informed is better. Just because one knows something, does not mean they will go out and use the information for whatever that may be. But if something were to occur, it is better that the individual knew how to handle and deal with the situation than to be left in the dark.

As Tim said, people realize when they're playing a video game and when they're in real life. On fantasy video games, there is magic and talking animals. That does not mean someone will go out into the streets and start casting spells, though. Same with violence, although violence is realistic. People who play video games do so to get away from the limits of real life, doing things they are not able to do. If someone wanted to shoot people, they would not do so via video game, when they can very well go grab a gun and shoot up the streets. As such, though, there is also the aspect that each individual interprets the information presented to them differently than someone else. Kids, yes, are very impressionable. But I don't think they view the violent video games as hurting people as much as having fun and escaping reality.

I haven't heard much about "little kids" having sex, but I know a bunch of teenagers do. Again, that goes back on the whole "cool" thing. But what I think people don't realize is: anyone can get laid. You can go out on the streets and find someone wanting a one night stand. It's not that difficult. Though, for some reason, it is perceived to be cool, when they don't realize anyone can do it, and thus it doesn't make them special or better than anyone else.

And... Yeah.
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Post by HS7 Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:56 pm

I never said now, I said a few years from now. If this keeps up, call me. You'll probably be on fire by then, screaming in pain.

Sometimes, being less informed is the best thing. There are things people don't want to know and things they do want to know. Some of those thinds are best to be kept out.

Not all people. Haven't you realized that there are some people so into the video games they play out the live of the characters in the game? Sure, it's all fun and harmless at first, but as time goes by, they become mroe serious about it and people start getting hurt. Little kids see this and they're going to think it's okay to do what the older people are doing so they start doing that as well. They follow the footsteps of an older person because they do know more and they're curious about things. This can make them be morphed into something that people never intended them to be. A lot of troubled kids come from troubled families and they don't know how to behave properly because their parents never acted that way around them, so they grow up being exactly like their parents. Sure, there may be a few that escape that future, but most don't know any better.

You haven't yet, but one day, if all this continues on it's path, you will. Sure, teenagers do it. Like I said before, kids follow older people. They see that they're older brother/sister is doing it, they'll do the same thing just so they can be like them. Other little kids look up to them and see that they're doing it so they'll mimic what they're doing. Yeah, they can't get pregnant until a certain time period that varies between people, but once that happens, you'll see a whole bunch of pregnant people that are not adults or teenagers.
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Post by bibbit Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:24 pm

What's with you and fire? I don't understand the connection here.

I've heard of maybe one instance where someone tried to play out such a life. No wait, it was the kid who drowned trying to find Spongebob. The point is, it really doesn't happen. People dress up as characters and that's about as far as it goes. Older people aren't doing that stupid crap either, so kids don't have such footsteps to follow. Violence issues in our culture today exist, but video games are pretty much the last thing that could possibly be causing them.

If you get some sort of kick out of imagining this "hell on earth" thing you're talking about, then whatever. The world isn't going to catch fire because everyone is a violent maniac or killer. And if you think all violence stems from games, definitely think again. Gangs go around city streets killing people from time to time, and I doubt that many of them have even played any video game at any time.

You're basing extreme future scenarios on little to no evidence of their actual impending occurrence. Remind me when I'm seventy years old to call you. I can guarantee you that I will not be on fire.
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Post by xStarr_x3 Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:30 pm

Kids follow older people? That may very well be true, but older people also know this. I, for one, know that if I'm around younger kids and even adults, I'll watch my mouth closer and make sure that I'm setting a good example for them, or even just living up to the expectation set on me for the older people.
So, HS7, how do little kids know about sex? And, even better, how do they know how to do it? And even if they somehow managed to get it, how would they become pregnant? Newsflash: You have to go through puberty to be able to reproduce. Teenagers are the ones going through puberty, adults are the ones who have been through it. And kids? Kids aren't going through puberty, they haven't reached it and passed it. So how are they going to get pregnant if they somehow managed to figure out how to perform sex? I can understand where they get kissing from -- that's on TV or even in kids movies. But most little kids go "eewww!" and shield their eyes and look away. I bet sex would disgust them even more.

But not only that, I believe you're leaving out essential parts of the human nature when you're making those brash generalizations.
We are human because we can actually think into the future and reflect on our past memories. We have morals, we know what is right and wrong.
And what about those who follow extremely strict religions?
Not every little kid is running around playing video games.
...In fact, I'm curious as to how and why you think little kids are playing killing video games. Last time I checked, there are specially made video games for little kids.
That teach them how to spell and stuff. And that are based on cartoons.
So, unless they're stealing these games, where are they getting them?
I can't really see a little kid sexin' everyone up or stealing. In fact, I don't see anything of this sort.
If you're seeing this, then there is something wrong with the morals in your community. Adults set examples that little kids follow. Teenagers know how to restrict themselves around younger kids.
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Post by Holleh Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:35 pm

Well. I'm just commenting here, because you two basically summed up my opinion. But, it depends on what you define as a "little kid." Kids as young as 10 years old (or younger, I dunno for sure) can go through puberty - I did. So if you think of "little kids" as younger than thirteen, than the whole puberty thing isn't exactly true. But if you mean like, under eight years old, then, yeah, impossible for them to reproduce.
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Post by Hazel Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:03 am

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Post by HS7 Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:58 am

The definition of 'little kid' has changed throughout life. My definition of 'little kid' is around 9+. That's the time when kids can start going through puberty THEREFORE being able to reproduce.
But if those kids see all these violent thing going on, they'll become use to it. Sure, they're grossed out at first, but after a while? Not anymore. They see is a lot, so it doesn't affect them. They'll try it out and then guess what? Oh, I won't say, sicne you'll say that I'm going a little extreme on that, so just use your own imaginations.

Yeah, humans can look back at past events and think about it, but if you think about it, no one really cares. Simple and harmless example: Over the summer, there was this stupid message going around on Facebook about the top ten movies of all time. It was sent to a whole bunch of people, causing them to continue to comment, causing every single person that ever had that sent to them get another one sent again. People had their phones blinging all day, every day because the idiots wouldn't stop saying things. Finally, it stopped. But then, an idiot decided to start it up again. Then it stopped. For five months, everyone thought it was gone until another moron decided to do it once more. THEY DON'T CARE. Even if it means annoying the heck out of themselves. They're comment ten times in a minute because they just don't care about other people. Makes their lives hell? Sure, go for it. They don't care. They're bored, they have nothing to do. So they make everyone elses life a bit more horrible.

Little kids see that, they'll think it's okay to do the same thing. If you haven't realized, no one exactly follows the maturity ratings on anything anymore. Even babies can learn how to play violent video games rated for adults. It's because no one cares anymore. And the enviroment? There was a huge start about that years ago. Now? There are small groups trying to save the earth, but millions of others out there aren't. It's because they don't care. The education? Yeah, kids are dropping out because they don't care about school. They drink and drive because they don't care. They do a lot of things because they don't care.

Haven't you noticed that in a time period of a few years, things can be more complex? Things get bigger? That's what's going to happen. And don't say I have nothing to base this on. This is how modern technology came to be, along with many other things. Events that are happening now are more than likely to amplify, causing more trouble. Sure, I may be completely wrong and everything just take a sudden turn to peace and happiness, but the way it looks now, it's pretty violent. People are attacking each other. They'll shoot them, burn them, stab them, poison them. There is a lot of hate in this world, and it's just spreading.

So you try to tell me that this world isn't getting worse. That you can't see something burst into flames. Because bursting into flames happens everyday. Maybe not big ones, but small ones. And those can lead into bigger ones which means destruction. Towns and cities could be taken out from a fire, or even a simple killing.

The future is looking pretty bleak. Even if no one starts fires, grass can catch fire due to the intense heat the sun gives us because our ozone layer is getting thinner and thinner because not many people care about saving the enviroment. A lot of people don't care about others, just their own selfish needs and gains.

And please, do argue back. I didn't spend my time typing all this out jsut so I could get and 'lol' or a 'k' or a 'cool dude.' Or even a 'That's nice' or a "Like that will ever happen' or something else along those lines.
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Post by bibbit Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:43 am

tl;dr



kidding.

Your whole post is basically saying that the world is indeed getting worse.
Nobody ever said it wasn't.
You just went off topic, opposing a point that nobody made.

The way I see it, there's no stopping the worsening of the world. Choices of individuals are based on their individual judgment. Humans are born selfish. The human mind naturally puts its own needs ahead of those of others. That is what causes people to do what they want to do, not games. That is why they "don't care," as you say.

If the world was going to take a turn for the worse as quickly as you seem to think it will, don't you think it would have happened by now? Look at ancient civilizations, for example. Remember what the Romans did for fun? They watched people and animals get in a ring together and fight to the death. They literally craved the sight of bloodshed. Does it really get much worse than that? And yet, we're all still here. No relentless murderers have come and slaughtered every man, woman and child yet. Hitler was a pretty bad dude, yet he died and things went on.

And just a side note: I'm accustomed to seeing bloodshed and extreme violence in games, but the sight of blood in real life often makes me pass out. I almost threw up when I saw the Zapruder film.

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Post by HS7 Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:40 am

Have you honestly not read a single thing I said? in rpetty much every post I made, I said something about the world getting worse and you all said I was being extreme. So, now that I present you with a few examples, you claim that I'm going off topic?

I'm saying that little no one really cares anymore. A few years ago, parents would have been horrified to even have violent video games in their household. Some still are. But yet, you can see some just littering the floor. Some parents even allow their kids to play those games and you know why? THEY JUST DON'T CARE.

Sure, people are born selfish, but saving the earth? So, what, you want to die faster too? Don't they realize helping can help them live too? People are just too lazy to do simple things because they don't want to and pretty much just don't care.

And yet, the world already has. Haven't you noticed that there is a war going on? There are still areas where women and girls cannot recieve a formal education. We're just waiting for bombs to come hit us. We have to worry about these things. Murders have gone up, haven't you realized? There's also the intense heat due to the depletion of the ozone layer. Animals are dying out which means that resources are leaving which also means we're going to die out soon if a lof of people aren't going to do anythign about it.

Hitler pretty much still lives. People talk about him, swear that the Holocaust will never happen again, and yet, here we are, in a little Holocaust that is taking a long time to complete.
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Post by bibbit Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:47 pm

You were being extreme, but your basic theory was correct. I don't see how a Facebook message is an "example" of that, but okay.

You keep saying that the earth is screwed because nobody's doing anything about "saving" it. It seems to me like society's been worse off before. Maybe not in America (I don't even know if you live in America but that's kinda beside the point anyway), but, would you look at that, wars have happened before. You know what happened when they ended? We got over it. Heck, this isn't even a world war, and we've already been through two of those. Education? School systems didn't even exist 6000 years ago. I think we're going to be okay.

Honestly I have no idea what you mean by this last bit about Hitler, so I'm just going to say "lol."
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Post by Holleh Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:30 pm

Geez, we went from video games to the world being destroyed because of some new "Holocaust" and the depleting Ozone layer? xP

Ahh, this is my subject, though, I must say - how human society sucks.

Upon entering the high school, I realized why I do hate most of humanity. I never knew how bad it was until I got there. Sure, I knew people did drugs, drank alcohol, and had premarital sex, but when you actually come in contact with these people and realize they're your peers, your classmates, it's just something that... Really astonishes you. It did for me, anyway.

Humans are born selfish. Though I'd like to agree with the ideas of John Locke as well. He said that all humans are born with a clean slate. I do believe that, because it's the experiences we have that shape us as people. On the other side, Thomas Hobbes said all men are selfish and vain. Both of them are somewhat true, though, in my opinion. As a baby, all we know how to do is whine and cry until someone feeds us or helps us in some other way. That's just how it works. We have to grow up, live, and learn how to become selfless. And not everyone outgrows their selfishness. Some people will be selfish until the day they die, because everyone is different and everyone views selfishness differently. But some people truly learn how to be selfless. No, one will never be completely selfless; I think that would be a bit extreme. We are supposed to live our lives to make ourselves happy, and yes, it's nice to help out others, but what's the point if you're miserable? All in all, some people care, others don't.

Honestly, it depends on how they view the world. Some people say "Have fun; it's the only life you have," so many choose to interpret this as "Get as drunk as you want, high as you want, have all sorts of lovers, and take advantage of everyone because this is your only life and you have to focus on yourself," while others see it as going through all the motions, forming meaningful relationships, being there when someone needs them, and accomplishing their dreams. Some interpret it as a little of both, or something completely different. Because we're all different.

You can't just assume that barely anyone cares; there are plenty of people who do. The bad people just seem to stick out more than the good. As such, "bad" and "good" are relative terms.

You said your definition of a "little kid" is 9+. You mean nine or below? Because... Yeah. xP Just saying.
They'll become used to it, probably. That does not mean they'll be like "Oh hey, I see so much violence, I think I should kill somebody!" No. Like I said, everyone is different, views the world differently, and interprets what they see and experience as they choose. The violence will affect some, sure, in a negative way, causing them to grow up "disturbed" and probably even harm people. Others realize it is wrong and don't.
Also, violence is present outside of video games, as I am sure you know, so I don't really think video games are that much of an issue. People can observe the world around them to get violent thoughts. I would say that is probably actually less so in video games, because they know it's a game and thus not real, therefore not representing how one should live their life. But who knows; everyone will interpret everything differently.

People don't drink and drive, smoke, do drugs, and have sex because they don't care. They do it because they think it's cool, because they think they'll be superior to their peers, by judging how much higher they were than the others, comparing how many people they've had sex with, and so on. They care enough to do it. They care enough to waste their money on drugs and alcohol, they care enough to find and pursue someone to have sexual intercourse with. Not caring would mean they wouldn't go out of their way to do such things. They care, but not about stopping it. Some do those things because they're depressed and thus drown their sorrows by drinking or getting too high to remember what was bothering them. Everyone has their motives and reasons.

Yes, we're in a war. Yes, the Ozone layer is getting thinner. Yes, people are suffering. Everything isn't supposed to be perfect; these hardships help us grow and learn. Not saying I support the war, not saying I enjoy having our shield against the harsh rays of the sun being destroyed, not saying I like the fact that people are suffering. Just saying, it's life. Stuff like this has happened before, but we're all here today. We've been through the ice age, both of the world wars. This world has been through a lot, but here it is, still spinning. Some wars can even be beneficial; they have been in the past. For, without war, would there be an America? Without the spirit to fight for what one believes in, would we have the freedom we have today? The different parts of the world will always disagree; they have different visions, different views on what is "right." Therefore, wars are created. Both fighting for a cause they believe is good. That's how humans - well, I believe all creatures, actually - are. We all have different opinions and values. We will always struggle, because there will be "good" and "bad" and "right" and "wrong." But we always get through it somehow.

I may have gotten somewhat off-track, but eh, those are my views. xP
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Post by xStarr_x3 Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:23 pm

HS7, the way you've been talking makes me think here.

You seem to be thinking that the world is definitely going to take a turn for the worse. And we're all going to end up dying in the ball of fire that was formerly known as Earth. However, that's quite a pessimistic view you have there. While I'm sure that there are others out there like you, who are willing to point out what they believe is so wrong with the world and how it is most definitely going to end up, there are others who are not like you. These people? They would be the optimists.

These optimists believe that, even in the dark times of the world, there will always be improvement over what's currently going on. There will always be a tomorrow, and there's always room for change.

Both sides are pretty extreme: One believing in the utter destruction of the world, the other believing in the utter improvement.

I now present a third side: The realist view.

A realist knows and acknowledges both the pessimists and the optimists. They do away with certain points and use others to gain their own views and knowledge.

I would consider myself a realist, although an optimistic one at that. I believe that the world needs these 'dark periods', if you will, to learn and grow from them. I'm sure most of you know the quote that goes something along the lines of "He who doesn't learn from history will continue making those past mistakes". This is a true statement. Once you touch a hot surface and burn yourself, you know that it is hot and not to touch it again. That is learning from your past mistakes and taking them into your future. The world, as a whole, does this with all the metaphorical hot surfaces. We learn from our past and grow into our future.

You, on the other hand, are basically saying that no, we cannot learn from our past. And that everything is going to come back. (Hitler? Yeah. He's totally going to rise from the dead -- Except he was cremated, I believe. Zombie ashes. Give me a break.)

The point is, we can all learn and grow from our mistakes. Yeah, there are a few people in the world who are incapable of doing that. And does the world move on without them? Yes, the world does.

From here on out, your point about video games influencing the world is invalid. 'Cause I'm pretty sure that Hitler didn't play video games, and he still turned out to be a complete wackjob.

It's not just video games that influence someone -- It's also the way that they were brought up. It's their goals in life, what they hope to accomplish. Hell, any one of us could try and become the next Hitler if our goals were macabre for that. I know I dream big enough, but I don't dream dark. Saying that video games are the entire cause of this? That's just insane.

And also saying that nobody cares? You're making an awfully large assumption there. You're saying that nobody in the whole entire universe cares. Well dang, I must not exist then. Because I sure care about what happens around me. And I know for certain that I am not the only one like me in the world. You're right, however: There are some people who just don't care what happens to them or anybody else. But then there are the people, like me, who do care what happens to us. And then we even have a third class: The people who are a mix of a bit of both. Maybe they do care, but they're afraid to be shunned for caring, so they pretend they don't care. So saying 'nobody cares' is, in fact, a lie. (You can refer back to Holleh's post about people caring about here, if you like. It quite nicely sums up a lot of this.)

Also, I liked when you brought up this paragraph:

"And yet, the world already has. Haven't you noticed that there is a war going on? There are still areas where women and girls cannot recieve a formal education. We're just waiting for bombs to come hit us. We have to worry about these things. Murders have gone up, haven't you realized? There's also the intense heat due to the depletion of the ozone layer. Animals are dying out which means that resources are leaving which also means we're going to die out soon if a lof of people aren't going to do anythign about it."

Yep, I just quoted you. Deal with it. (And I'm likin' the typos.)

I love when you talk like we don't know anything or when you're attempting to talk down to us. I think I've said it often enough that I'm in JROTC, correct? And JROTC is the pre-ROTC, which is pre-Army. Obviously, I know there's a war going on. But this is a different kind of war -- We're trying to help instead of harm. Yeah, we're hated for butting our noses into other countries' businesses. And I'm sure you know as well that Obama is trying to pull our troops out of wherever they happen to be at the moment. I have heard nothing about other countries planning on bombing us. If you've heard something of those lines, I suggest contacting the head of defense and making sure he knows that you have reason to believe that we are going to be bombed.

With that becoming null, woman and girls not receiving a formal education is nothing new. America just so happens to have overcome this feat a long time before most other countries. There are other countries out there that have girls going to school, we're not the only ones in the world. Women have always been called the 'inferior gender'. Women still make lower wages than men. This. Is. Nothing. New. Women have always had to fight for what they want. And it will probably most likely always be that way. However, there are feminists and anti-feminists, and within them, hypocrites who claim one side and yet play to the other. (Yep. Just thought I'd throw that out there.) There is always more than one side to a point, HS7. And there's usually more than two as well. I prefer to think that to every good debate point, there are three sides.

Okay. You brought up the murder rates going up. I've heard this speech thousands of times. "Back in the past, children could walk home. Nowadays, parents are so afraid of a kidnapping, a rape, or a murder taking place that they don't want their children walking home!" Blahblahblah. Been there, debated that. The point is, the rate over the years hasn't actually increased. And if it has, it's only been by a little. What has changed a whole lot though? Our awareness and perception of these events have gone up. Have you watched the news lately? Most of it's pretty grim stuff. The news hardly ever talks about anything being all sunny-happy and rainbows and unicorns dancing around. No, what we're told is grim stuff. And because of this, many people think the world is becoming a dark place, when this just isn't so. As our awareness goes up, we come to believe that the chances of it are becoming higher and higher, when this is just not the case.

Also, animals dying out is not a new thing. The dodo bird, remember him? Or even that messenger pigeon-dove-thing? Or... how about the dinosaurs? Extinction is not a new thing. While you seem to be taking it as a bad thing entirely, I don't exactly believe that. Extinction helps the world grow and change. It provides new spaces and areas for new, more advanced species to develop. So you're saying that just because other species are dying out and becoming extinct? Not exactly a bad thing. Yes, I agree that it is sad to know that you'll never see another rhino or something, but there's never need to fret. We'll soon be discovering some other animal that's more advanced and well-suited to live in this new environment. The world is constantly changing. And with that, animals are too. And if they cannot survive in this new world, well, it becomes a game of survival of the fittest.

All of your points can easily be fought against and proved wrong with a little thought, HS7. Why not give us something a little more challenging?
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Post by HS7 Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:55 am

Okay, first of all, the thing that caught my eye the most was when you said I said nobody cares. Show me exactly were I said that. I'm pretty sure I said MOST people don't. I would know. I've been typing that same thing out over and over again. So, yeah, there goes that paragraph you wrote.

So, you see? Women are STILL considered to be lower than men. Shouldn't this have changed? I mean, pretty much everything else has. Why does this still remain like it is? Of course it's nothing new. There are people out there who don't even care. Those people believe that women are used for a few main things: cooking, cleaning, babysiting, and reproducing. Still nothing new. Sure, other plcaes treat women differently, but there is always that part in the brain that most people have that say that woem are simple and nothing.

Yes, people do learn from mistakes, but look at the past. Do you see anything being repeated? I sure do. Yeah, maybe they'll finally get a brain and try to stop it in a few years, but right now? People are doing the same things from the past. Racism? Yeah, haven't they learned a lesson about that? Well, it's still going on. Murders? Sure, they get sent to jail, do their time... Most of them go right back out and do it again. Even people you know. You don't have to know them like they're your best friend, but you know them. They fail a test because they didn't study. That was a mistake. So, to fix that mistake, you start studying, yes? Well, guess what? Another failing grade because they didn't learn from that mistake. From the way you're saying it, it seems like once someone does something wrong once. they'll fix it the next time it's done. Not everyone does that.

There are countries hating each other. Even if you haven't heard anything about another country wanting to bomb us, just think about past events. People use those past events to infer what will happen in the future. There have been people from other countries who try to bring bombds into the US. Never heard about it? Watch the news. They've had it on there. And a car in New York was blown up by a bomb someone planted there. People hate this country. People don't like how this place is free. They want to get rid of that freedom and replace it with complete control. So, yes, you can assume that someone out there is planning on bombing us.

Video games can change a person's life. There are some people who actually have lives, so video games don't affect them. But there is T.V. and the outside world. You can be a completely normal person, but then someone is trying to mug you on the streets. Of course, the natural thing a person does is to try to protect themselves. So they fight. That fight could accidently kill the mugger. Some people get a strange thrill when they kill. It's like a high, and they love the feeling so much, they do it again to experience that same thrill. But after the first, that thrill dwindles down, so the person is still trying to kill people so they can find that thrill again.

People make choices. Sure, some of them are stupid, but they do. Choices a person makes can be based off of a role model. Or, they can be based off of by their own self. Either way, it's a behavioral thing.

When people do risky things, such as drinking and driving, smoking, not wearing a seatbelt, etc, it's called behavioral risk factors. The person probably knows what might happen if they do it, but they do it anyways just for the thrill. Sometimes they do it so they can look 'cool' to their friends. And people do do these risky things because sometimes, the really just don't care.

You know how people say that someone never really dies because they're held in their hearts? Well, that's pretty much the same way with Hitler. I enevr said that the actual Hitler was going to put himself back together and walk the earth. I'm saying someone who is devoted to Hitler or some other person can do things exactly like their role model.

People are different and they will end up different. But either way, they'll still be people out there who want to do bad to the world, even if they are outnumbered by those who want to do good. They'll try. Which is stupid considering they'll probably fail.

A few percent? Have you not look at charts and what not? Things have gone up drastically, whether they be good or bad. Things also have gone down slightly, whether they be good or bad.

Extinction is mainly caused by humans. We pollute the air, cut down trees, dirty the water. We have filters and more space, but animals don't have filters. They rely on nature. If there is less space, animals will begin competing for resources. They will fight each other to survive. There goes your survival of the fittest statement. But haven't you ever thought about animals banding together? When an individual cannot fight something alone, he or she will go to another to ask for help. We may be at teh top, but thigns do change. Proof of that is history. Once day, someone could happen. It may be good, it may be bad, but something will happen. What if humans can't survive? We all die out and the earth is ruled by the animals once again. Extinction of one species can cause others to die out too. It's called the butterfly effect. You kill one single grasshopper and you may have changed the world. One grasshopper may seem like nothign right now, but think about it. That grasshopper could have reproduced to have more grasshoppers. But with that grasshopper gone, it can't produce. So now, even though it's small then, there is a smaller supply of food for other animals. When there is a smaller supply, animals fight to get it. Eventually, the supply will be so limited, animals will fight even harder to live. Then those species die out and the species that at those will die out to.

And I haven't completely said that the world is going to end up black and burned out. I'm saying that there is a CHANCE that it will. I can't be sure about it unless I have some sort of time machine that can take me into the future. No. My thought come from current and past events that shape everyday life.

You think my points can be easily fought against, but you're only brushing the surface of it. Really think about it and your head will come up with all sorts of things. If you think mine are easy to be proved wrong like that, then think about yours. When you only see the broad point of view, it seems like it can be simple to over look. But you have to learn how to reach into the text and read in it. When you do that, please do answer. I haven't wasted a huge part of my life reading in between the text for nothing.
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